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change(next) [self.dead]
use(Geyser:418)
change(#2) [self(#1).active]
use(Black Claw:919) [!enemy.aura(Black Claw:918).exists]
use(Swarm:706)
use(Thunderbolt:779)
use(Swallow You Whole:276)
Flummoxed 97709
Special or not:0Special or not:202212377115912370

Skills: * 2 2
Breed: Any

Gahz'rooki
This pet can have the following breeds:

Breed Health Power Speed
PS 1400 297 281


Special or not:0Special or not:1022264815470626480

Skills: * 2 2
Breed: Any

Chitterspine Skitterling
This pet can have the following breeds:

Breed Health Power Speed
SS 1278 275 335
PS 1278 304 299
SB 1343 288 299


Special or not:0Special or not:210112017009812010

Skills: 1 * 1
Breed: Any

Spawn of G'nathus
This pet can have the following breeds:

Breed Health Power Speed
PB 1302 305 289


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DragonsAfterDark: 5 July 22 - Strategy has been updated for SLs changes

Script thanks to Malhado

Medium XP
At least one of the pets for this strategy require the use of a specific breed.
Not every strategy can be bullet proof. This is one of them. You might have to restart it, since there are some random elements that increase the risk of your pets failing. Don't blame them, please!
This strategy is using pets obtainable from the Wow Trading Card Game (TCG) or the auction house for potentially high sums of gold.
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You can use this strategy to carry a low level pet to give it experience.
Some instructions are more difficult to follow than others. That's exactly what you might find in this strategy!
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Time: 0:48
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Rounds: 7
The number of rounds for this fight were added by a strategy curator. This number is usually very reliable.
This table shows the level increase for completing the fight with level 25 pets and one carry pet.
Partial level experience is not included in the calculation.

Before After Experience Gain
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392673
492789
5102888
6102970
7113036
8123086
9123119
10133135
11143135
12153119
13153086
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16182888
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18192673
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20212393
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Strategy Details
48 Sec
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7
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N/A
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2023-08-09 21:07:48
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2017-09-02 04:20:38
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Tamer Details
Suramar 25.2 62.6 (TomTom / Map Pin)
Medium XP
This fight provides a medium amount of experience. It can be worth leveling pets with this strategy. You can see detailed values by hovering over the XP tag.
Turn 1

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Gahz'rooki
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Chitterspine Skitterling
Black Claw
Swarm
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Pass
Bring in your Gahz'rooki
Bring in your Chitterspine Skitterling
Bring in your Spawn of G'nathus
Swap to your Gahz'rooki
Swap to your Chitterspine Skitterling
Swap to your Spawn of G'nathus
Master Tamer Flummox comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Gahz'rooki
Chitterspine Skitterling
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Black Claw
Swarm
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Master Tamer Flummox
Turn 2

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
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Gahz'rooki
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Chitterspine Skitterling
Black Claw
Swarm
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Pass
Bring in your Gahz'rooki
Bring in your Chitterspine Skitterling
Bring in your Spawn of G'nathus
Swap to your Gahz'rooki
Swap to your Chitterspine Skitterling
Swap to your Spawn of G'nathus
Master Tamer Flummox comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Gahz'rooki
Chitterspine Skitterling
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Black Claw
Swarm
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Master Tamer Flummox
Turn 3

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

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Gahz'rooki
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Chitterspine Skitterling
Black Claw
Swarm
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Pass
Bring in your Gahz'rooki
Bring in your Chitterspine Skitterling
Bring in your Spawn of G'nathus
Swap to your Gahz'rooki
Swap to your Chitterspine Skitterling
Swap to your Spawn of G'nathus
Master Tamer Flummox comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Gahz'rooki
Chitterspine Skitterling
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Black Claw
Swarm
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Master Tamer Flummox
Turns 4-6

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Gahz'rooki
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Chitterspine Skitterling
Black Claw
Swarm
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Pass
Bring in your Gahz'rooki
Bring in your Chitterspine Skitterling
Bring in your Spawn of G'nathus
Swap to your Gahz'rooki
Swap to your Chitterspine Skitterling
Swap to your Spawn of G'nathus
Master Tamer Flummox comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Gahz'rooki
Chitterspine Skitterling
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Black Claw
Swarm
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Master Tamer Flummox
Bring in your Spawn of G'nathus

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
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Gahz'rooki
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Chitterspine Skitterling
Black Claw
Swarm
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Pass
Bring in your Gahz'rooki
Bring in your Chitterspine Skitterling
Bring in your Spawn of G'nathus
Swap to your Gahz'rooki
Swap to your Chitterspine Skitterling
Swap to your Spawn of G'nathus
Master Tamer Flummox comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Gahz'rooki
Chitterspine Skitterling
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Black Claw
Swarm
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Master Tamer Flummox
Turn 1

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
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Gahz'rooki
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Chitterspine Skitterling
Black Claw
Swarm
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Pass
Bring in your Gahz'rooki
Bring in your Chitterspine Skitterling
Bring in your Spawn of G'nathus
Swap to your Gahz'rooki
Swap to your Chitterspine Skitterling
Swap to your Spawn of G'nathus
Master Tamer Flummox comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Gahz'rooki
Chitterspine Skitterling
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Black Claw
Swarm
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Master Tamer Flummox
Turn 2+

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Gahz'rooki
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Chitterspine Skitterling
Black Claw
Swarm
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Pass
Bring in your Gahz'rooki
Bring in your Chitterspine Skitterling
Bring in your Spawn of G'nathus
Swap to your Gahz'rooki
Swap to your Chitterspine Skitterling
Swap to your Spawn of G'nathus
Master Tamer Flummox comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Gahz'rooki
Chitterspine Skitterling
Spawn of G'nathus
Swallow You Whole
Geyser
Black Claw
Swarm
Swallow You Whole
Thunderbolt
Master Tamer Flummox

Eating pets is not healthy. Not as long as I’m around!




Esmay

wrote on 2023-07-28 15:10:31

Still works in Dragonflight 10.1.5 using Malhado's script https://www.wow-petguide.com/Comment/117009 (edited)

BioNIk

wrote on 2020-06-16 16:30:02

change(next) [self.dead]
use(Geyser:418)
change(#2) [self(#1).active]
use(Swarm:706)
use(Thunderbolt:779)
use(Swallow You Whole:276)

Malhado

wrote on 2023-02-25 16:29:38

You missed the (Black Claw:919) line:

change(next) [self.dead]
use(Geyser:418)
change(#2) [self(#1).active]
use(Black Claw:919) [!enemy.aura(Black Claw:918).exists]
use(Swarm:706)
use(Thunderbolt:779)
use(Swallow You Whole:276)

Pride#2302

wrote on 2022-09-25 15:06:13

Still works like a charm.

lakan#21469

wrote on 2022-09-25 11:15:00

Worked well with Scalebrood Hydra (HS) as sub for the first pet (edited)

lyrae#1216

wrote on 2022-03-30 01:27:25

After SL.. As stated by Erosis, this doesn't work. On Wow Head I found Kimnana's strategy. Worked on the first try for me.

Gulp Frog:
Toxic Skin x1
Water Jet x1
Corpse Explosion x1 Switch to Spawn G.

Spawn of G'Nathus:
Thunderbolt x1
Dive x1
Swallow you Whole until dead

Gahz'rooki:
Swallow you whole til Flummox is dead.

Erosis#1160

wrote on 2020-10-13 21:33:19

No longer works in Slands.

bleh

wrote on 2018-05-19 05:51:12

Not sure why this is marked as hard. It worked perfectly on the first try, thanks :)

voodoomon

wrote on 2020-05-23 17:03:29

Same.....

Jorgo#1764

wrote on 2018-08-24 08:48:04

for people who dont have or want to buy a Gulp Froglet for this fight i subbed in a Coastal Scuttler which is a new pet from BFA with stampede and it worked fine.

Turimo

wrote on 2018-08-29 12:43:02

Thank you Gulp Froglet is low drop and quite expensive.

Kryaken

wrote on 2018-09-15 17:14:50

Thank you, it works with Coastal Scuttler.

Ilirea wrote on 2019-11-19 23:56:54

This worked very well. I didn't even need to bring Gahz'rooki back in.

nogulpfrog

wrote on 2017-11-24 21:40:57

Beat Flummox without gulp frog

strider(1.2.1)
(health more than 1480,1546 the best)

leviathan hatchling(2.1.1)
(power273,speed273)

slithershock elver(2.1.2)
(speed more than270,,,power more than 270)

1.soothe
2.cleansing rain
3.swap leviathan hatchling
4.toxic skin
5.water jet
6.whirlpool
7-8.water jet,died, swap strider
9.soothe
10.cleansing rain,died,swap the slithershock elver
11.pump
12.dodge
13.grasp
14-16.pump
17.dodge
18-19.pump,victory

Luvnstrumph#1318

wrote on 2017-12-04 10:47:52

Thanks!! I don't have Gulp yet :)

Jarlathe

wrote on 2018-05-30 17:26:30

This strat worked perfect. Thanks!

Initiative wrote on 2018-06-29 13:46:17

Some benchmarks/stipulations that have to occur for this to work, even with the correct stats/types:

Your Leviathan Hatchling needs to die to a 2nd "Smelly Jar", so that it doesn't cast on your Strider- who will then be too slow to cast both Soothe & Cleansing Rain before it dies.

Steps 14-16 and 18-19: One of these pumps HAS to crit, or else Flummox's humanoid heal will defeat you with 60 health left.

nogulpfrog

wrote on 2018-06-30 08:47:12

only B/B H/B S/B slithershock elver is allowed in this strategy ,may be your slithershock elver is S/S

Jarlathe

wrote on 2018-07-02 08:04:08

Initiative, as Nogulp said, you must have the correct types for this to work. This was the hardest fight I had to do for this cheesement, and even with this strategy, it took me a few times.

iphegenia#1809

wrote on 2019-09-09 11:44:12

I didn't have a Strider with the right speed, so I used an HS Water Skimmer - same moveset same outcome. Worked perfectly. Thanks!

Anonymous wrote on 2017-04-13 00:05:18

Subbed in Hydraling (2,2,2) for Gahz'rooki and it worked just fine.

Terry wrote on 2017-05-28 00:14:33

At no point did this come close to working.

Kim wrote on 2017-09-14 19:06:58

That worked for me, thank you!!

danetch1 wrote on 2019-08-11 08:21:53

Doesn't work.

Vytah wrote on 2018-03-24 16:32:41

Why does only Gulp's swarm ability work? I tried this with several other frogs with swarm and never got it to work.

Spiritwalker#1427

wrote on 2018-03-24 19:51:08

Gulp Froglet is the only one with the Swarm ability. Other frogs have Swarm of Flies, which is not the same ability.

Lilyoptra wrote on 2017-07-30 12:50:26

Was determined to defeat every familiary familiar encounter as my own personal goal and had every one but this guy. Tried repeatedly with Zinip's strat but RNG was never in my favor. Finally broke down and bought a Gulp Froglet and the difference was amazing. That Swarm ability made all the difference. With that finished I can now remove the addon, Family Familiar Helper - great addon for keeping track of progress on this achievement.

I do find it sad that this fight is a family familiar with only 1 hard-to-get pet as a truly viable option...

Fred wrote on 2018-03-24 13:32:48

I feel you. I used to feel the same. But fights like this made me realize that sometimes things are just bad, no other word for it. And it's just ok to let it go and move on.

Vellma wrote on 2017-04-07 18:10:55

Worked first try, easy!

PriestessStefy

wrote on 2018-02-27 20:12:01

Agreed this worked like a charm!

Noblessa wrote on 2017-06-26 21:30:57

I ran this 4 times in a row (total alts LOL), no failures. Flummox got a couple of crits, even.

Gulp Froglet: Water Jet, Toxic Skin, Corpse Explosion
Puddle Terror: Punch, Clobber, Dive
Hydraling: Tail Slap, Swallow You Whole, (any 3rd)

Gulp Froglet > Toxic > Water Jet > Corpse Exposion > dies
Puddle Terror : Clobber > Punch > Dive > (Dive cont) > Punch > Punch > Clobber > Punch > Dive > dies
Hydraling: Swallow You Whole, Tail Slap until Flummox dies

Sempah wrote on 2017-07-30 04:19:13

Thx, worked like a charm.

Vanadia wrote on 2017-09-14 15:16:07

Thanks! Worked perfectly!

Cernunnas wrote on 2017-10-04 11:08:15

PERFECT!! Sooo much better than the strategy above. Thank you so much!!

Finklestein wrote on 2017-12-16 09:00:04

First time i failed with this strategy but in my second run the Puddle Terror killed Flummox. Thanks

Judzia wrote on 2017-12-16 19:24:27

Worked brilliantly.

Zinip wrote on 2017-03-01 14:31:49

After ~8-10 tries, I finally managed to do this with :

Gahz'rooki 2,2,2 - Leviathan Hatchling 1,1,1 - Spawn of G'nathus 1,1,1!!!

I was only able to manage this with a Thunderbolt crit in round 9. Also was done with a P/B Leviathan Hatchling, idk if either of the other two breeds will work.

1-Geyser
2-Swap to Leviathan
3-Whirlpool
4-Toxic Skin
5-Tail Slap
6-Tail Slap (Leviathan Hatchling dies, bring Gahz' back in)
7-Geyser
8-Swap to Spawn
9-Thunderbolt (This HAS to crit, otherwise the strat fails)
10 & 11-Dive
12-Swallow You Whole (With the Thunderbolt crit, the Dive dmg brings him low enough to
benefit from the double dmg! Also Spawn dies here)
13-Swallow You Whole

I found this strat in a Wowhead comment, so credit goes to terykats on Wowhead. Although the Thunderbolt crit wasn't mentioned nor any Leviathan Hatchling breeds.

Edit: Replaced some placeholders w/ full names.

Anonymous wrote on 2017-03-06 14:35:06

Any strategy where one HAS to rely on a CRIT is not a good strategy. Simply relying upon good luck with RNGis too gimmicky; your 8-10 tries before success confirms this

Zinip wrote on 2017-03-13 13:05:48

The only reason I added this was because it did not require a gulp froglet, and thought people should know IT IS possible w/o one. If you were either not lucky enough to get one while mop was current/cant afford one now (if there even is one on the AH) your screwed if you need/want to do this. I know strats that require crits aren't favorable nor desireable (atleast in my opinion), but it is possible.

Lilyoptra wrote on 2017-03-27 14:21:47

Additional strats are always appreciated - especially when difficult to obtain pets are listed. I did not have the Gulp Froglet either so tried this strat. As an FYI, I was not able to get the Leviathan's 2nd Tail Slap in with an H/P breed - looking at the stat's, this breed is not quite fast enough to go first against Flummox which would allow the 2nd Tail Slap to land. While the H/B would also have the speed, the extra Power from the P/B would seem to be the best option for this to be successful. My Spawn was only level 23 as a 2nd strike against me so was not able to make it work.

Chrisski wrote on 2017-03-28 05:33:31

Ty, I've also farmed this Gulp Froglet w/out success so tried it w/ the Leviathan. Took 7 tries, never got a crit once w/ Thunderbolt but I had a crit tail slap and a crit dive that got him low enough for the double swallow him whole to kill him.

kwiltre wrote on 2017-04-07 18:07:30

Thank you so much! For the strategy and for the encouragement to persist. I've been on my last 3 fights for family familiar for weeks and this guy comes up again. I've been ready to smash my computer trying these fights before. Made myself level my leviathan the rest of the way and on the second attempt had enough crits to stay alive. Down to one more aquatic and one more mechanical.

Pilfer wrote on 2017-04-12 03:53:35

I make the crit in my 5 atemp. Thanks

Ripperoo wrote on 2017-05-11 17:15:22

Talk about frustrating ... took me roughly 40 attempts to get this to work. Only got crits on the Thunderbolt 3 times in that span (and none in the first 25+ attempts). First 2 crits were offset by bad RNG with his crits. Thank God I'm done with this guy.

Bliss wrote on 2017-06-23 11:05:05

No Gulp Frog but not for lack of trying. I tried Leviathan, but it mine was H/P, so I replaced it with Hydraling. Instead of using Toxic Skin, I used Call Lightning. Took three tries to win.
Did not get the lucky crit, but got lucky on other attacks.

Anonymous wrote on 2017-06-26 16:58:15

Hydraling a much better choice - worked first try!

Mel Lafferty wrote on 2017-10-05 01:45:48

I finally got this to work on my 15th attempt however I finally decided to make a change and used Hydraling (2,1,2) instead of Leviathan Hatchling making its second move Call Lightning ... what a difference! I finally got him down even when Thunderbolt didnt crit for me!

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