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vs. Farmer Nishi

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change(#3) [self(#1).active & self.dead]
standby [self(#1).active & enemy(#3).active & enemy.hp<618]
use(Water Jet:118) [self.aura(Pumped Up:296).exists & enemy.round>3]
use(Water Jet:118) [enemy(#3).active & enemy.round>1]
use(Cleansing Rain:230) [enemy.round=2]
use(Pump:297)
use(Explode:282) [enemy.hp<618 & !enemy.ability(Consume:160).usable & !enemy.ability(Burrow:159).usable]
use(Decoy:334)
use(Missile:777) [enemy.hp>618]
standby
Farmer Nishi 66734
Special or not:0Special or not:11122836646338360

Skills: 1 2 2
Breed: Any

Aqua Strider
This pet can have the following breeds:

Breed Health Power Speed
SS 1319 227 374


>280

2 ZL 3 0 165

Any Level 3+ Pet

>165

Special or not:0Special or not:1122339553673390

Skills: 1 2 2
Breed: Any

Darkmoon Zeppelin
This pet can have the following breeds:

Breed Health Power Speed
HB 1546 273 273


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  • Same family
  • Has the required skills
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  • Ignores specific breed requirements for the main pet, as breeds can be very different for substitutes

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High XP
At least one of the pets for this strategy require the use of a specific breed.
Not every strategy can be bullet proof. This is one of them. You might have to restart it, since there are some random elements that increase the risk of your pets failing. Don't blame them, please!
This strategy is using pets obtainable from the Wow Trading Card Game (TCG) or the auction house for potentially high sums of gold.
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Level 3+
You can use this strategy to carry a low level pet to give it experience.
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Time: 2:10
This time was entered by a strategy curator. It is quite reliable especially when using TDScript, however times can always vary slightly.
Rounds: 17+
The number of rounds for this fight were added by a strategy curator. This number is usually very reliable.
This table shows the level increase for completing the fight with level 25 pets and one carry pet.
Partial level experience is not included in the calculation.

Before After Experience Gain
1135981
2136353
3146683
4146971
5147219
6157425
7157590
8167714
9167796
10177838
11177838
12187796
13197714
14197590
15207425
16207219
17216971
18226683
19226353
20235981
21235569
22245115
23253900
24251980

Safari Hat

Lesser Pet Treat

Pet Treat

Darkmoon Hat

Pet Battle Week

















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Pet levels to 25 with minimal XP lost

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Additional XP above level 25 is lost

Strategy Details
2 Min 10 Sec
This time was entered by a strategy curator. It is quite reliable especially when using TDScript, however times can always vary slightly.
17+
The number of rounds for this fight were added by a strategy curator. This number is usually very reliable.
2020-06-09 06:09:24
The strategy was last updated on this date.
2018-06-15 03:02:07
The strategy was created on this date.
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Tamer Details
Valley of the Four Winds 46 43.6 (TomTom / Map Pin)
High XP
This fight provides a lot of pet experience. If possible to safely bring a low level pet in, it is worth doing so. You can see detailed values by hovering over the XP tag.
Turn 1

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 2

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 3

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 4

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 5+
Water Jet until Siren dies.

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Toothbreaker comes in.

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 1

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 2

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 3

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 4

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 1

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 2+
Water Jet until your Aqua Strider dies.

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 1

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 2
Missile If Brood of Mothallus is above 618 HP (Pray for a non crit or you may kill him).

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Turn 3

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren
Your EXP pet gets all the EXP for being the only surviving pet on your team.

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Aqua Strider
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Any Level 3+ Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Pass
Bring in your Aqua Strider
Bring in your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Aqua Strider
Swap to your Darkmoon Zeppelin
Swap to your Level Pet
Siren comes in
Toothbreaker comes in
Brood of Mothallus comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Aqua Strider
Level Pet
Darkmoon Zeppelin
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Pump
Missile
Explode
Decoy
Brood of Mothallus
Toothbreaker
Siren

The way her carrots turn out, I wonder if she chose the right profession...




Dorelei

wrote on 2021-04-18 02:52:54

I use a S/S Aqua Strider, and I find that I can sneak in a second cleansing rain before killing the first enemy, then swap the order of cleansing rain and the second prep-pump on enemy 2 (essentially doing cleansing rain on cooldown). This has saved me from death by crazy crits a few times, or at least given me a little more peace of mind.

Essentially it goes:
Enemy 1:
Pump #1
Cleansing Rain
Pump #2
Pump #1
Water Jet
Cleansing Rain
Water Jet to death

Enemy 2:
Pump #2
Pump #1
Cleansing Rain
Water Jet to death

(everything else is the same)

I edited Ralthor's script on 6/3/17 with these changes. My first attempt at script editing though, so I hope it works.

if [enemy(#1).active]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=1]
ability(Cleansing Rain)
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=3]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=4]
ability(Water Jet)
endif

if [enemy(#2).active]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=1]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=2]
ability(Cleansing Rain) [enemy.round=3]
ability(Water Jet)
endif

if [enemy(#3).active]
ability(Pump) [!self(#1).dead]
change(#3) [self(#1).dead & !self(#3).played]
ability(Decoy)
ability(Missile) [enemy.hp>618]
ability(Explode) [enemy.hp<618]
endif (edited)

Ta

wrote on 2021-04-28 18:48:48

Patch 9.0.5 - worked super for me. Thank you

andxf

wrote on 2022-05-15 10:51:52

Tried it today, it worked like a charm! Thanks :)

GFR wrote on 2021-07-07 11:05:50

very odd bug with this fight..usually solo this with Spawn of onyxia but now when i fight toothbreaker its cooldowns suddenly reset..anyone else notice this?

Moxxi wrote on 2021-07-08 15:48:47

I was able to get it easily with a Darkmoon Tonk in the last slot:
Eternal Strider (1 2 2), Leveling pet 2+), Darkmoon Tonk (1 1 2)
When Strider dies, bring in Tonk:
Shock and Awe > Ion Cannon
Toothbreaker dies. If Toothbreaker doesn't die and is low, just missile to finish him off. Worked great each time I tried it.

Riko#1139

wrote on 2021-08-23 15:22:21

Works great with DMTonk. Thanks

Aur

wrote on 2021-11-28 21:29:52

The Strider & Tonk strat works well and has been what I have been using for this tamer since original MoP. My strider is a P/S Eternal and its very consistent

Toenail

wrote on 2021-10-31 18:12:54

seeing the same problem with the script. when the darkmoon zep comes in it immediately explodes. tried a few times, each with toothbreaker still alive.

Riko#1139

wrote on 2021-08-23 15:21:56

I used Moxxi's strategy and worked great. Use Dark Moon Tonk in last slot, follow his directions.

Luminita

wrote on 2021-06-17 21:09:42

My Aqua Strider just kept dying over and over to Toothbreaker. I was finally able to finish the fight using an H/S Spring Strider.

SilkCharm

wrote on 2021-06-02 18:31:18

A number of times the darkmoon Zepp comes out and explodes - but it's the second enemy pet. I am using the script - I'm guessing the DZ should be exploding on the 3rd pet but is somehow not seeing the 2nd one? EDIT just want to say its happened more than once but not every time. (edited)

Sateeva#1273

wrote on 2021-01-19 22:14:24

S/B Eternal Strider worked just as well, and with original script.

Sokra#2571

wrote on 2020-10-16 23:35:56

October 17 2020 - worked well on Prepatch. Keep in mind that I'm using a P/S Eternal Strider (273 Power 305 Speed) because the usual high speed striders just deal too little damage to make the fight smooth.

Flibbit

wrote on 2021-01-03 23:54:05

Worked with my S/B Eternal Strider too. I watched the first few failures with the Aqua Stider before I switched, and it looks like you just need to have a strider with 1356+ hp.

Sheltim

wrote on 2020-12-30 09:57:45

As of 12/28/2020, Sunlight (from Siren) hits backline pets for 248 (this was with an Elemental leveling pet, so no +/- damage). Could the hp requirement be updated accordingly (it already says level 3+ which should be pretty close)? (edited)

Wicked wrote on 2020-03-05 19:00:36

Failed with Aqua Strider, darkmoon zepplin strugged VS the toothbreaker

zag213

wrote on 2020-07-08 14:00:50

I had the same issue the first time around using the Aqua Strider with my DM Zep. Unfortunately i already started the redo so the log was gone when i went to look what happened. Im guessing it was crit related as my AS failed to kill the first 2 pets.
However it worked fine the 2nd time. As well as the first time i originally used it.
If i can get it to happen again i will test a script with a line to forfeit battle if AS dies before her 2nd pet dies.

SarumanWise

wrote on 2020-08-10 02:01:03

Was having the same issues with the Aqua Strider. After seeing Shenk's reply to Duox's comment below, I substituted my beloved Aqua Strider with a hardier P/S Eternal Strider. Both the strat and the TDScript now work great.

Daedrynn

wrote on 2020-12-24 00:48:41

P/S Eternal Strider works perfectly in Shadowlands. Thank you.

Daedrynn

wrote on 2020-12-24 00:47:58

Can confirm, using SurumanWise's suggestion to use P/S Eternal Strider instead of Aqua Strider, works perfectly including the original script, in Shadowlands.

Duox wrote on 2020-01-02 12:17:34

strategy doesnt work. strider loses

Gráinne

wrote on 2020-01-02 15:41:23

You really, really have to give some detail for your comment to be more useful than random noise.

I suspect that your substitute for the Strider had speed less than 280. If you give the useful information about exactly what species and breed you used, I could be sure.

I suspect the case is similar to this one: https://wow-petguide.com/?Comment=64160

I have asked the strat curators to have a look at it when convenient.

Shenk

wrote on 2020-01-02 17:24:25

^what grainne said.
tested the strat (again... it's not the first time i'm here) with all the substitutes and couldn't find a reason for it to fail. of course you'd have to play some turns different when you're pet is slower than 280 speed but since i've added a speed requirement now there really is no reason for anyone to blame the strat for not working. if it still doesn't work now it's your fault :P (edited)

Toenail

wrote on 2020-01-05 02:11:31

i have always used the s/s aqua strider which is way over 280.

Gráinne

wrote on 2020-01-05 09:49:31

Toenail, is this about your comment below about the script? That might be a different issue, but since Duox didn't say anything, maybe not.

Since I would never use that addon, which I consider botting, I cannot comment on why scripts might go wrong.

Luminita

wrote on 2020-01-13 16:15:41

If you get hit by some unlucky crits by Toothbreaker, the strat can fail and the Aqua Strider dies too early. It just happened to me. This is rare though. This is always, always my goto strat.

Shenk

wrote on 2020-01-14 13:24:13

When I used this strat the p/s eternal strider was my go-to

Duox#1901

wrote on 2020-01-22 18:19:51

feel free to delete the op. I was being a bonehead and new to battling, it was user error ,sorry.

Toenail

wrote on 2019-12-27 23:16:33

the original TD script isn't working, i have to take over manually. the biggest issue is that the strider will cast the second Pump after Toothbreaker uses Sons of the Root (uses it as first attack). i know i have used this before, but something is off now.

Shenk

wrote on 2020-01-05 11:35:11

looks like the problem lies in the way the script is written. the script doesn't adjust for crits. however i'm far too lazy right now to fix it, so maybe later :P

Eekwibble

wrote on 2018-03-18 08:47:07

I've written a script that should take into account any eventuality on this fight regarding Pump crits as posted on the alt 2 page by David G.
It should be noted that I've changed the Zeppelin's abilities to Flyby and Thunderbolt as Missile has the potential to kill Mothalus and ruin the strat and I find Decoy to be a bit pointless since Mothalus is faster than the Zep. Decoy and Missile work under a lot of parameters but not all, whereas Thunderbolt and Flyby work 100% of the time if you use them right.
Line 9 has a provision for using Explode if Mothalus' hp is below 349 and Consume is usable. This is to account for a potential Consume crit.
The provision on line 11 prevents a Thunderbolt crit from ending the battle.

standby [ enemy(#2).active & round=5 ]
standby [ self(#1).active & enemy(#3).active & enemy.round>5 ]
ability(230) [ enemy.round~2,3 ]
standby [ self(#1).active & enemy(#3).hp<769 ]
ability(118) [ enemy(#1).active & round=5 ]
ability(118) [ enemy(#2).active & round=9 ]
ability(118) [ enemy.round>5 ]
ability(297)
ability(282) [ !enemy.ability(#3).usable & enemy.hp<349 ]
ability(282) [ !enemy.ability(#1).usable & !enemy.ability(#3).usable & enemy.hp<619 ]
ability(779) [ enemy.hp>726 ]
ability(515)
change(#2)

Eekwibble

wrote on 2018-03-18 09:12:53

I use a P/S Eternal Strider for this and so should you. You can find them a very short flight over the mountain ridge to the north-west.

The closing strat is as follows:
Mothalus comes in
1. Pump
2. Cleansing Rain
3. If your strider is alive (one or two of your earlier hits one-shot the Elementals); Pump then Water Jet until Mothalus is at 50%hp then pass until your strider dies then bring in Zep.
If your strider is dead; bring in Zep.
If Mothalus has over 726hp use Thunderbolt. If it's under that but above 618 use Flyby.
Then: if Mothalus has under 619hp and Consume is on cd use Explode. Otherwise use Flyby until its hp is under 619 and Consume is on cd then Explode.

TLDR:
1. Get an Eternal Strider
2. Change Zep's abilities 1 and 3 to Flyby and Thunderbolt
2. Copy and paste the script into Rematch
4. Profit

Eekwibble

wrote on 2018-03-20 09:25:17

One small amendment. Put this line between lines 10 and 11.

ability(515) [ enemy.hp.full ]

That will give your Thunderbolt a buff in case strider dies before damaging Mothalus. i.e.: You one-shot Toothbreaker but not Siren and Mothalus crit with Burrow. It's a tiny chance of it happening but it's there.

AaronMM

wrote on 2019-02-13 11:06:27

Script and changes worked great. The only thing I noticed a potential problem was that the script swapped in the level pet but wouldn't swap to the Zep so I had to manually do it. If the point of this fight is to have the level pet gain all XP after the first 2 pets die then there's no need for a swap to the level pet. I'll retest the script another day to see if the same problem occurs and report back.

Eekwibble

wrote on 2019-02-16 05:32:57

My script assumes you have the Zep in slot #2 and carry pet in slot #3. Probably should have mentioned that.

Ralthor wrote on 2017-06-03 11:34:37

tdscript for this fight. Worked for me.

if [enemy(#1).active]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=1]
ability(Cleansing Rain) [enemy.round=2]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=3]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=4]
ability(Water Jet)
endif

if [enemy(#2).active]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=1]
ability(Cleansing Rain) [enemy.round=2]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=3]
ability(Water Jet)
endif

if [enemy(#3).active]
ability(Pump) [!self(#1).dead]
change(#3) [self(#1).dead & !self(#3).played]
ability(Decoy)
ability(Missile) [enemy.hp>618]
ability(Explode) [enemy.hp<618]
endif

Firedrake1 wrote on 2017-10-11 10:03:31

Perfect! Thanks!

ChakalT

wrote on 2018-01-17 09:01:33

Perfect! Thanks!

Marco262 wrote on 2017-12-02 14:08:44

If your strider dies and you Explode your Zeppelin, you don't need to bring in your level pet before the Zeppelin. As soon as the Zeppelin dies, the level pet will get all the XP anyways.

Prudentius wrote on 2017-07-11 19:00:34

Use a P/S Eternal Strider. Aqua Striders are the slowest and weakest of the water strider pets. These are wild pets and there are only two breeds so finding the right breed shouldn't take too long.

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