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Substitutions are definitely possible for Creepy Crawly and Tolai Hare. Lovebird Hatchling is a must have.
For Creepy Crawly, any Critter with >260 Speed rating with Flank, Survival and Apocalypse will work. For Tolai Hare, any Critter with >260 Speed rating with Flurry, Dodge and Burrow will work. For both pets, get the one with the highest Power stat. A possible mishap is that B/B Creepy Crawly, with only 1400 Health, might be killed by backline damage. If that happens, restart the match. ADDENDUM: Please note, you just need the Creepy Crawly and the Tolai Hare (or their substitutes) to be faster than 260. S/S is NOT recommended because of its low power stat. Faster than 260, highest power stat you can get. ADDITIONAL ADDENDUM: I've noticed some insisting that this strat doesn't work. That is unadulterated nonsense; I use it every single time I do this fight. Yes, there is the occasional misfire, but in general, it does work. Then one day, I experienced several consecutive failures, But I discovered what my problem was: My 1st slot of Lovebird Hatching was set to Alpha Strike instead of Peck. You must use Peck. Since Bruce is faster than Lovebird Hatchling, the second Alpha Strike will never go off, making your attack about half as effective as Peck would be.. |
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2 | 4.3 | 40 | 104
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I only have the H/P breed of Cobbleshell, and thank you to Zim for letting me know about the H/B & Rima for the H/H! ^^
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2 | 4.5 | 4 | 103
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1. Not all crits are insta-forfeit, but AoE will still be a mess.
2. I was hestitant to use an expedition pet, but used to be cheap on AH, got mine for 400g in BfA. See comments for more alternatives and Rematch strings. |
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2 | 4.0 | 7 | 142
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Had to go to literal hell and back to get a semi-consistent strategy for this mfer and his gang of murderous sharks. When all else fails, drop a meteor on it. RNG still bad though. The Blood in the Water at the end can really mess with you.
The first ability on Ashen Chomper doesn't particularly matter (you can use Chomp instead of Shadowflame), but it will be used. Haven't tried HP Ashen Chomper yet. |
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2 | 4.8 | 2 | 105
1:45
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Please notice there is some RNG involved.
Credit goes to Jaheesh and Neodiun |
RNG |
2 | 3.3 | 4 | 115
1:55
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Mossa Rapida instead of Colpo Laterale on purpose to avoid some stupid RNG >.<
(read below) Sometimes Chum uses Megalodon in round 4 instead of 5... (?!) If that happened to you -> Restart No idea why... (bug??) Looks like it happens if you bring him below 50% HP "too fast" PS: as a 3rd pet you could (maybe) use something else (tried a lot of them) (Speed > 260) for example: - Coniglietto Polveroso P/S (Dodge / Flurry / Burrow) - Some "Fawn" (Headbutt / Hoof) - Coniglio di Nobiluova (Egg Barrage / Flurry / Burrow) - etc... Althought after 5 hours of testing this stupid fight, i think that i am the most happy with Coniglio Frenetico because of his 297 Power and Nutrimento. The RNG is STRONG with this one ^^ One of the most ridiculous battles for the [Family Battler] Achievement... |
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2 | 4.0 | 2 | 119
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Another spin on the Frostfur Rat opener but uses an alternative to the Pollo Ruspante by using a Zampalunga di Lunacupa instead. Downside is it is just as RNG heavy but can be overcome with a Cerbiatto Brillazoccoli (or any Fawn with this set) with more than 260 Speed. Any less and you will have an RNG fight restart point based on a speed tie.
The Frostfur Rat's breed shouldn't matter that much for this strategy, but speed is definitively useless for it. All breeds will outspeed Esca so Health and Power breeds are recommended. I was 100% consistently able to get Chum into Headbutt range with a P/S breed which is arguably the worst type for this strategy, showing how great the Ratto Pelogelido is as an opener. |
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2 | 3.1 | 6 | 110
1:50
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Includi Passaggi:
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
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BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
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BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
HP | 1546 | 257 | 292 |
HS | 1546 | 227 | 322 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
HB | 1546 | 240 | 305 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
BB | 1481 | 227 | 325 |
SB | 1465 | 224 | 338 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
HS | 1546 | 227 | 322 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
HP | 1546 | 257 | 292 |
HS | 1546 | 227 | 322 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
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BB | 1481 | 276 | 276 |
SS | 1400 | 260 | 325 |
HS | 1546 | 260 | 289 |
SB | 1465 | 273 | 289 |
HB | 1546 | 273 | 273 |
HP | 1546 | 289 | 260 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
HP | 1546 | 257 | 292 |
HS | 1546 | 227 | 322 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
HB | 1546 | 240 | 305 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
HP | 1546 | 257 | 292 |
HS | 1546 | 227 | 322 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
HB | 1546 | 240 | 305 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
HP | 1546 | 257 | 292 |
HS | 1546 | 227 | 322 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
HB | 1546 | 240 | 305 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
HS | 1546 | 227 | 322 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
HB | 1546 | 240 | 305 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
HP | 1546 | 257 | 292 |
HS | 1546 | 227 | 322 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
HB | 1546 | 240 | 305 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
PS | 1400 | 257 | 322 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
SS | 1400 | 244 | 341 |
>260 |
Abilità: 2 2 1
Tipo: Uncertain
Tipo | Health | Power | Speed |
---|---|---|---|
BB | 1481 | 244 | 309 |
SS | 1400 | 227 | 357 |
HP | 1546 | 257 | 292 |
HS | 1546 | 227 | 322 |
SB | 1465 | 240 | 322 |
HB | 1546 | 240 | 305 |
>260 |
Substitutes:
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Substitutions are definitely possible for Creepy Crawly and Tolai Hare. Lovebird Hatchling is a must have.
For Creepy Crawly, any Critter with >260 Speed rating with Flank, Survival and Apocalypse will work. For Tolai Hare, any Critter with >260 Speed rating with Flurry, Dodge and Burrow will work. For both pets, get the one with the highest Power stat.
A possible mishap is that B/B Creepy Crawly, with only 1400 Health, might be killed by backline damage. If that happens, restart the match.
ADDENDUM: Please note, you just need the Creepy Crawly and the Tolai Hare (or their substitutes) to be faster than 260. S/S is NOT recommended because of its low power stat. Faster than 260, highest power stat you can get.
ADDITIONAL ADDENDUM: I've noticed some insisting that this strat doesn't work. That is unadulterated nonsense; I use it every single time I do this fight. Yes, there is the occasional misfire, but in general, it does work. Then one day, I experienced several consecutive failures, But I discovered what my problem was: My 1st slot of Lovebird Hatching was set to Alpha Strike instead of Peck. You must use Peck. Since Bruce is faster than Lovebird Hatchling, the second Alpha Strike will never go off, making your attack about half as effective as Peck would be..
Prima | Dopo | Esperienza Guadagnata | |
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1 | ➜ | 3 | 239 |
2 | ➜ | 4 | 254 |
3 | ➜ | 4 | 267 |
4 | ➜ | 5 | 279 |
5 | ➜ | 6 | 289 |
6 | ➜ | 6 | 297 |
7 | ➜ | 7 | 304 |
8 | ➜ | 8 | 309 |
9 | ➜ | 9 | 312 |
10 | ➜ | 10 | 314 |
11 | ➜ | 11 | 314 |
12 | ➜ | 12 | 312 |
13 | ➜ | 13 | 309 |
14 | ➜ | 14 | 304 |
15 | ➜ | 15 | 297 |
16 | ➜ | 16 | 289 |
17 | ➜ | 17 | 279 |
18 | ➜ | 18 | 267 |
19 | ➜ | 19 | 254 |
20 | ➜ | 20 | 239 |
21 | ➜ | 21 | 223 |
22 | ➜ | 22 | 205 |
23 | ➜ | 23 | 185 |
24 | ➜ | 24 | 163 |
Cappello da Safari |
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Integratore Inferiore |
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Integratore |
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Cilindro di Lunacupa |
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Evento bonus: scontri tra mascotte |
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Le mascotte livellano fino al 25 con minima XP persa |
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XP aggiuntiva oltre il livello 25 è persa. |
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Your steps here are perfectly correct :
Turn 5 - Peck - you must score a crit
Turn 6 - Peck - you must score a crit
Turn 7 - Peck - you must score a crit
Turn 8 - Peck (If Bruce didn't die in the previous turn, he will die here! If you scored CRITS!!!
Unless the Lovebird Hatchling hits 4 crits doing 420 Dmg per hit, just walk away and start again.
or maybe my Lovebird S/S is not strong enough, perhaps there is another breed with higher damage?
Anyways I did eventually win using this thank you!
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Arctic Hare B/B
first time ~!
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And again, do NOT use S/S breeds. Use a breed that is faster than 260, and the highest power stat you can find, for both the Crawley and the Hare.
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I *think* that Alpine or Tolai Hare H/P (1546/257/292) is optimum for the bunny, so I used that in all trials. (*Maybe* Grasslands Cottontail S/S?, but without doing the arithmetic, I'd rather have an extra 146 HP than an extra 3 Power.)
I first thought that making sure the cockroach survives was the priority, so my first attempt was with Irradiated Roach H/H (1887/211/276). Remarkably, there were no crits at all in the battle. I *would* have won, that but I made a mistake on my last move and hit Flank instead of Survival, so I count that as a win for the strat. My bad, but the strat's success.
Next I tried a Locust H/S (1465/276/289) with exactly the same stats as Creepy H/S. He got 3 crits; I got 2. I won.
I tried again with the Locust H/S. This time he got 3 crits, especially a devastating crit with the second Megalodon which killed my Locust in the backline, and I lost.
I tried a third time with the Locust H/S, and finally got a battle with no crits. I won.
I switched it up to a P/P Twilight Beetle (1237/341/276), mostly out of curiosity. No. The low health on the backline did me in. The Beetle took 195+169+390+487=1241 damage (no crits), and it has only 1237 HP. So 1238 is the *absolute* minimum HP for slot 1, and that would of course fail with any crit against it.
Finally, I tried an Irradiated Roach H/P (1709/240/276). By now I knew that I didn't need a huge bag of health, but more HP is good. I took only one crit, from Deep Bite in Round 5, and won.
So, overall, the strat scored 4 out of 6 wins.
There is undoubtedly some RNG. Flank and Flurry have a coin-toss chance of hitting either 2 or 3 times, and crits against you can be devastating, especially Megalodon. I can see how, with a weaker bunny, that success rate could go further down.
You could math out the probabilities, assuming worst case of only 2 hits of Flank and Flurry each time, against the various possible stat distributions in slots 1 and 3, but for a one-time challenge battle, and a difficult one, I'll leave that to any other interested party! :)
P.S. Even though Megalodon's tooltip says it does 390 damage to all pets, the first Megaladon does exactly that, BUT the second does 487 to each of the remaining 2 pets. Why? It's not a Meteor-type split-damage ability, and it doesn't claim to ramp up. I spent far too much time thinking about that. (edited)
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(By the way, you omit Turn 5 in your description, hopping from 4 to 6. This puts the numbering of the rounds out by one when I compare it agsinst my log, which is relevant because of the Apoc duration.)
He got no crits. I got one Flurry crit, one Flurry triple, and two Flurry doubles, but my bunny died a round early. However, the H/P Irradiated had enough H and P to finish Chum in two rounds of Flank (and still took 487 from Magalodon standing alone, so definitely no split effect there) so the Apoc finished Maws Jr right on schedule.
What this does show, though, is that there is a high likelihood that with a lower-powered bunny, the beetle will have to use an extra round of Flank before it Survivals (assuming it survives that long). Someone just reading the strat and not watching the countdown would fail because of that. I suspect that's the source of people claiming very high RNG.
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Fire-Proof Roach HP + Arctic Hare HP. Breeds are important. Roach should have health at the end, but You need to keep your damage high thats why You need P.
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What is more likely your problem is that you are 1) Using S/S breeds, which I do not recommend, due to the low Power stat. Use a breed that is faster than 260, and the highest power stat you can find. And/or 2) your Lovebird Hatchling has Alpha Strike in the first slot. Alpha Strike will not work against Bruce because Bruce is faster than Lovebird Hatchling. You must use Peck in the first slot, NOT Alpha Strike. (edited)
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Also, make sure you are NOT using S/S breeds. All you need for both the Hare and the Crawley is to be faster than 260. Beyond that, get the highest power stat you can find.
The strat does work.
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I switched my SS sub rabbit with a SB and I got luckier and won.
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you can put more than one stat requirements as long as it won't kick out pets that should not be kicked. This should be a more consistent solution than using both stats and breeds. :)
I see how finding out the exact power value might be not easy, but picking a threshold from an existing pet is okay enough.
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ability(Apocalypse:519)
ability(Lovestruck:772) [self.round=1]
ability(Predatory Strike:518)
ability(Dodge:312)
ability(Burrow:159) [self.round=4]
ability(Survival:283) [self.aura(Apocalypse:683).duration=1]
ability(#1) [round>2]
change(next)
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quit [ self(#1).dead ]
change(#2) [ round=2 ]
change(#3) [ self(#2).dead ]
ability(Apocalypse:519)
ability(Survival:283) [ self.aura(Apocalypse:683).duration=1 ]
ability(Flank:193)
ability(Lovestruck:772) [ self.round=1 ]
ability(Predatory Strike:518)
ability(Peck:112)
ability(Burrow:159) [ enemy(Maws Jr.:2227).active ]
ability(Dodge:312)
ability(Flurry:360)
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Please bear in mind that it is also very breed specific. You have to be faster than Chum and Maws Jr., you need sufficient power to do some decent damage, and you need enough health to survive the backline damage dished out by Chum and Bruce.
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Strat worked even though I messed it up and hit stampede not paying attention, but Chum always swapped back in for me, not Maws.
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Sounds like I need one. Much appreciated.
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The importance of this strat is that your pets must always be faster than their opponents. So, speed is essential and the best power stat you can find.
Breed here is important.
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I won't lie, it's still RNG, but you have a much more chances to win.
In order :
Apocalypse
Swap to your wolpertinger
Use ability 3 on CD
Use ability 2 on CD
Use ability 1 as a filler.
If you're lucky, they'll get stun and sleep and keep swapping enough times for your wolpertinger only to drop 2 of the sharks super low hp.
If everything went well, he'll die but your bunny should end the 2 low hp sharks before the meteor strikes and one shot the last one, worst case bunny dies too but your last critter survive. Try it as much times as it takes for you to win but i did it 3 times and won the 3 ! (Still RNG i'm 100% sure.) (edited)
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