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Family Familiar

The achievement Family Familiar is the largest and toughest addition to the pet battling world in a long time. It might even beat the Celestial Tournament in required effort!
To complete it you need to earn 10 individual achievements, each asking you to defeat 12 tamers in the Broken Isles with only pets from one specific pet family.

But how hard can it be? Well, you're in for quite a ride. Every day there is only three active pet quests out of a total of 37 different ones.
So first off, one of the tamers in question has to be ative.
Then you need to beat him or her with a certain pet family only, but you cannot repeat the fight with the same character!.
This means you will have to wait for every tamer to be up 10 times! And on top of it all, some of the tamers are extremely hard - if not impossible - to beat with certain families. Looking at you there, Flummox!

Unless you go at it with multiple characters, it will most likely take several months before you can finish this particular achievement.
But once you do, you will get your very own tiny, corrupted, adorable Treant :-)

Important Update as of 10/26/2016: With Patch 7.1 it is no longer possible to fight these trainers repeatedly using a level 110 character without world quests.

As usual, below table will list all pets required to use the main strategies listed here. Due to the nature of the achievement, the list is quite long this time.
Best sort by family to get a better overview over each families difficulty level.

#

Name

Occurrences

1.

Teroclaw Hatchling

Flying

14

Level PetTeroclaw Hatchling is used against:
Trapper Jarrun
Robert Craig
Bodhi Sunwayver
Odrogg
Amalia
Tiffany Nelson
Xorvasc
Grixis Tinypop
Durian Strongfruit
Nightwatcher Merayl
Sir Galveston
Aulier
Varenne
Bredda Tenderhide

2.

Anubisath Idol

Humanoid

12

Level PetAnubisath Idol is used against:
Tiffany Nelson
Grixis Tinypop
Bodhi Sunwayver
Amalia
Robert Craig
Nightwatcher Merayl
Sir Galveston
Durian Strongfruit
Bredda Tenderhide
Varenne
Aulier
Xorvasc

3.

Chrominius

Dragonkin

11

Level PetChrominius is used against:
Odrogg
Master Tamer Flummox
Bredda Tenderhide
Tiffany Nelson
Trapper Jarrun
Xorvasc
Bodhi Sunwayver
Grixis Tinypop
Varenne
Sir Galveston
Nightwatcher Merayl

4.

Kun-Lai Runt

Humanoid

10

Level PetKun-Lai Runt is used against:
Tiffany Nelson
Grixis Tinypop
Odrogg
Amalia
Robert Craig
Nightwatcher Merayl
Bredda Tenderhide
Trapper Jarrun
Aulier
Xorvasc

5.

Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling

Mechanical

10

Level PetMechanical Pandaren Dragonling is used against:
Odrogg
Grixis Tinypop
Nightwatcher Merayl
Bodhi Sunwayver
Bredda Tenderhide
Varenne
Sir Galveston
Aulier
Tiffany Nelson
Durian Strongfruit

6.

Spawn of G'nathus

Aquatic

9

Level PetSpawn of G'nathus is used against:
Robert Craig
Master Tamer Flummox
Bodhi Sunwayver
Tiffany Nelson
Sir Galveston
Grixis Tinypop
Bredda Tenderhide
Xorvasc
Aulier

7.

Pandaren Water Spirit

Elemental

9

Level PetPandaren Water Spirit is used against:
Nightwatcher Merayl
Tiffany Nelson
Durian Strongfruit
Grixis Tinypop
Xorvasc
Master Tamer Flummox
Varenne
Amalia
Bodhi Sunwayver

8.

Enchanted Broom

Magic

9

Level PetEnchanted Broom is used against:
Robert Craig
Amalia
Grixis Tinypop
Nightwatcher Merayl
Bodhi Sunwayver
Sir Galveston
Tiffany Nelson
Trapper Jarrun
Xorvasc

9.

Electrified Razortooth

Elemental

9

Level PetElectrified Razortooth is used against:
Odrogg
Bredda Tenderhide
Tiffany Nelson
Grixis Tinypop
Xorvasc
Trapper Jarrun
Varenne
Sir Galveston
Robert Craig

10.

Feline Familiar

Beast

9

Level PetFeline Familiar is used against:
Tiffany Nelson
Amalia
Bredda Tenderhide
Bodhi Sunwayver
Durian Strongfruit
Sir Galveston
Aulier
Varenne
Nightwatcher Merayl

11.

Emperor Crab

Aquatic

8

Level PetEmperor Crab is used against:
Robert Craig
Trapper Jarrun
Amalia
Odrogg
Bodhi Sunwayver
Grixis Tinypop
Varenne
Aulier

12.

Nexus Whelpling

Dragonkin

8

Level PetNexus Whelpling is used against:
Robert Craig
Bredda Tenderhide
Xorvasc
Grixis Tinypop
Durian Strongfruit
Sir Galveston
Aulier
Nightwatcher Merayl

13.

Fossilized Hatchling

Undead

7

Level PetFossilized Hatchling is used against:
Odrogg
Amalia
Grixis Tinypop
Robert Craig
Aulier
Tiffany Nelson
Varenne

14.

Unborn Val'kyr

Undead

7

Level PetUnborn Val'kyr is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Robert Craig
Aulier
Tiffany Nelson
Varenne
Nightwatcher Merayl
Trapper Jarrun

15.

Emerald Proto-Whelp

Dragonkin

7

Level PetEmerald Proto-Whelp is used against:
Tiffany Nelson
Trapper Jarrun
Xorvasc
Bodhi Sunwayver
Grixis Tinypop
Varenne
Amalia

16.

Summit Kid

Beast

7

Level PetSummit Kid is used against:
Tiffany Nelson
Bredda Tenderhide
Xorvasc
Trapper Jarrun
Sir Galveston
Aulier
Nightwatcher Merayl

17.

Iron Starlette

Mechanical

7

Level PetIron Starlette is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Trapper Jarrun
Bredda Tenderhide
Xorvasc
Aulier
Tiffany Nelson
Durian Strongfruit

18.

Nether Faerie Dragon

Dragonkin

7

Level PetNether Faerie Dragon is used against:
Robert Craig
Odrogg
Master Tamer Flummox
Bredda Tenderhide
Durian Strongfruit
Sir Galveston
Aulier

19.

Any Mech

Mechanical

6

Level PetAny Mech is used against:
Odrogg
Grixis Tinypop
Trapper Jarrun
Bodhi Sunwayver
Sir Galveston
Aulier

20.

Scourged Whelpling

Undead

6

Level PetScourged Whelpling is used against:
Durian Strongfruit
Odrogg
Xorvasc
Sir Galveston
Bredda Tenderhide
Trapper Jarrun

21.

Fel Pup

Beast

6

Level PetFel Pup is used against:
Tiffany Nelson
Odrogg
Xorvasc
Grixis Tinypop
Trapper Jarrun
Varenne

22.

Tolai Hare

Critter

6

Level PetTolai Hare is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Odrogg
Robert Craig
Amalia
Bredda Tenderhide
Aulier

23.

Any Aquatic

Aquatic

6

Level PetAny Aquatic is used against:
Trapper Jarrun
Nightwatcher Merayl
Varenne
Durian Strongfruit

24.

Zandalari Anklerender

Beast

6

Level PetZandalari Anklerender is used against:
Robert Craig
Master Tamer Flummox
Grixis Tinypop
Sir Galveston
Varenne
Nightwatcher Merayl

25.

Tiny Snowman

Elemental

5

Level PetTiny Snowman is used against:
Trapper Jarrun
Varenne
Aulier
Bodhi Sunwayver
Robert Craig

26.

Jade Owl

Magic

5

Level PetJade Owl is used against:
Odrogg
Bodhi Sunwayver
Tiffany Nelson
Aulier
Varenne

27.

Fel Flame

Elemental

5

Level PetFel Flame is used against:
Nightwatcher Merayl
Bredda Tenderhide
Xorvasc
Aulier
Amalia

28.

Bone Serpent

Undead

5

Level PetBone Serpent is used against:
Xorvasc
Robert Craig
Aulier
Varenne
Trapper Jarrun

29.

Any Rabbit

Critter

5

Level PetAny Rabbit is used against:
Amalia
Nightwatcher Merayl
Tiffany Nelson
Xorvasc

30.

Darkmoon Tonk

Mechanical

5

Level PetDarkmoon Tonk is used against:
Robert Craig
Grixis Tinypop
Nightwatcher Merayl
Xorvasc
Varenne

31.

Any Lantern

Magic

5

Level PetAny Lantern is used against:
Odrogg
Durian Strongfruit
Robert Craig
Nightwatcher Merayl
Tiffany Nelson

32.

Any Undead

Undead

5

Level PetAny Undead is used against:
Amalia
Xorvasc
Tiffany Nelson
Nightwatcher Merayl

33.

Rabbit

Critter

4

Level PetRabbit is used against:
Robert Craig
Trapper Jarrun
Tiffany Nelson
Bredda Tenderhide

34.

Any Snail

Critter

4

Level PetAny Snail is used against:
Xorvasc
Bodhi Sunwayver
Tiffany Nelson
Nightwatcher Merayl

35.

Any Critter

Critter

4

Level PetAny Critter is used against:
Xorvasc
Bodhi Sunwayver
Tiffany Nelson
Nightwatcher Merayl
Odrogg
Trapper Jarrun
Aulier

36.

Crimson Moth

Flying

4

Level PetCrimson Moth is used against:
Trapper Jarrun
Robert Craig
Xorvasc
Varenne

37.

Any Moth

Flying

4

Level PetAny Moth is used against:
Trapper Jarrun
Robert Craig
Xorvasc

38.

Gilnean Raven

Flying

4

Level PetGilnean Raven is used against:
Odrogg
Tiffany Nelson
Sir Galveston
Aulier

39.

Any Magic

Magic

4

Level PetAny Magic is used against:
Odrogg
Durian Strongfruit
Bodhi Sunwayver
Sir Galveston

40.

Any Beast

Beast

3

Level PetAny Beast is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Trapper Jarrun
Aulier

41.

Shimmershell Snail

Critter

3

Level PetShimmershell Snail is used against:
Robert Craig
Bredda Tenderhide
Sir Galveston

42.

Any Elemental

Elemental

3

Level PetAny Elemental is used against:
Odrogg
Tiffany Nelson
Trapper Jarrun

43.

Harpy Youngling

Humanoid

3

Level PetHarpy Youngling is used against:
Bodhi Sunwayver
Amalia
Sir Galveston

44.

Ghostshell Crab

Aquatic

3

Level PetGhostshell Crab is used against:
Nightwatcher Merayl
Sir Galveston
Xorvasc

45.

Abyssius

Magic

3

Level PetAbyssius is used against:
Aulier
Bredda Tenderhide
Varenne

46.

Blighthawk

Undead

3

Level PetBlighthawk is used against:
Durian Strongfruit
Grixis Tinypop
Bodhi Sunwayver

47.

Cinder Pup

Beast

3

Level PetCinder Pup is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Bredda Tenderhide
Xorvasc

48.

Flayer Youngling

Humanoid

3

Level PetFlayer Youngling is used against:
Odrogg
Nightwatcher Merayl
Aulier

49.

Lil' Bling

Mechanical

3

Level PetLil' Bling is used against:
Robert Craig
Trapper Jarrun
Xorvasc

50.

Silkbead Snail

Critter

3

Level PetSilkbead Snail is used against:
Odrogg
Sir Galveston
Aulier

51.

Mud Jumper

Aquatic

3

Level PetMud Jumper is used against:
Durian Strongfruit
Nightwatcher Merayl
Bredda Tenderhide

52.

Lesser Voidcaller

Magic

3

Level PetLesser Voidcaller is used against:
Sir Galveston
Xorvasc
Master Tamer Flummox

53.

Netherspawn, Spawn of Netherspawn

Magic

3

Level PetNetherspawn, Spawn of Netherspawn is used against:
Durian Strongfruit
Trapper Jarrun
Xorvasc

54.

Ghastly Kid

Undead

3

Level PetGhastly Kid is used against:
Sir Galveston
Bredda Tenderhide
Nightwatcher Merayl

55.

Ghostly Skull

Undead

3

Level PetGhostly Skull is used against:
Durian Strongfruit
Sir Galveston
Bredda Tenderhide

56.

Mini Mindslayer

Magic

3

Level PetMini Mindslayer is used against:
Robert Craig
Master Tamer Flummox
Bredda Tenderhide

57.

Coilfang Stalker

Magic

2

Level PetCoilfang Stalker is used against:
Grixis Tinypop
Nightwatcher Merayl

58.

Rapana Whelk

Critter

2

Level PetRapana Whelk is used against:
Trapper Jarrun
Tiffany Nelson

59.

Zandalari Kneebiter

Beast

2

Level PetZandalari Kneebiter is used against:
Robert Craig
Amalia

60.

Terky

Humanoid

2

Level PetTerky is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Robert Craig

61.

Hydraling

Aquatic

2

Level PetHydraling is used against:
Robert Craig
Tiffany Nelson

62.

Mirror Strider

Aquatic

2

Level PetMirror Strider is used against:
Odrogg
Xorvasc

63.

Any Humanoid

Humanoid

2

Level PetAny Humanoid is used against:
Trapper Jarrun

64.

Roach

Critter

2

Level PetRoach is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Amalia

65.

Lost Netherpup

Beast

2

Level PetLost Netherpup is used against:
Odrogg
Bodhi Sunwayver

66.

Core Hound Pup

Elemental

2

Level PetCore Hound Pup is used against:
Odrogg
Master Tamer Flummox

67.

Any Roach

Critter

2

Level PetAny Roach is used against:
Amalia
Nightwatcher Merayl

68.

Tranquil Mechanical Yeti

Mechanical

2

Level PetTranquil Mechanical Yeti is used against:
Bredda Tenderhide
Durian Strongfruit

69.

Ikky

Flying

2

Level PetIkky is used against:
Grixis Tinypop
Master Tamer Flummox

70.

Elementium Geode

Elemental

2

Level PetElementium Geode is used against:
Nightwatcher Merayl
Sir Galveston

71.

Elfin Rabbit

Critter

2

Level PetElfin Rabbit is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Amalia

72.

Amber Moth

Flying

2

Level PetAmber Moth is used against:
Xorvasc
Aulier

73.

Sister of Temptation

Humanoid

2

Level PetSister of Temptation is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Sir Galveston

74.

Darkmoon Zeppelin

Mechanical

2

Level PetDarkmoon Zeppelin is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox
Varenne

75.

Droplet of Y'Shaarj

Elemental

1

Level PetDroplet of Y'Shaarj is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox

76.

Ash Spiderling

Beast

1

Level PetAsh Spiderling is used against:
Grixis Tinypop

77.

Squirrel

Critter

1

Level PetSquirrel is used against:
Grixis Tinypop

78.

Moonshell Crab

Aquatic

1

Level PetMoonshell Crab is used against:
Aulier

79.

Fawn

Critter

1

Level PetFawn is used against:
Tiffany Nelson

80.

Turkey

Flying

1

Level PetTurkey is used against:
Bredda Tenderhide

81.

Crimson Shale Hatchling

Elemental

1

Level PetCrimson Shale Hatchling is used against:
Amalia

82.

Any Flyer

Flying

1

Level PetAny Flyer is used against:
Trapper Jarrun
Robert Craig
Xorvasc
Grixis Tinypop

83.

Red Cricket

Critter

1

Level PetRed Cricket is used against:
Grixis Tinypop

84.

Personal World Destroyer

Mechanical

1

Level PetPersonal World Destroyer is used against:
Amalia

85.

Clockwork Gnome

Mechanical

1

Level PetClockwork Gnome is used against:
Bodhi Sunwayver

86.

Blue Clockwork Rocket Bot

Mechanical

1

Level PetBlue Clockwork Rocket Bot is used against:
Sir Galveston

87.

Singing Sunflower

Elemental

1

Level PetSinging Sunflower is used against:
Bredda Tenderhide

88.

Emmigosa

Dragonkin

1

Level PetEmmigosa is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox

89.

Any Frog

Aquatic

1

Level PetAny Frog is used against:
Durian Strongfruit

90.

Sentinel's Companion

Flying

1

Level PetSentinel's Companion is used against:
Bredda Tenderhide

91.

Puddle Terror

Aquatic

1

Level PetPuddle Terror is used against:
Sir Galveston

92.

Enchanted Lantern

Magic

1

Level PetEnchanted Lantern is used against:
Aulier

93.

Frostfur Rat

Critter

1

Level PetFrostfur Rat is used against:
Sir Galveston

94.

Searing Scorchling

Elemental

1

Level PetSearing Scorchling is used against:
Robert Craig

95.

Albino River Calf

Beast

1

Level PetAlbino River Calf is used against:
Durian Strongfruit

96.

Terrible Turnip

Elemental

1

Level PetTerrible Turnip is used against:
Grixis Tinypop

97.

Forest Spiderling

Beast

1

Level PetForest Spiderling is used against:
Robert Craig

98.

Crow

Flying

1

Level PetCrow is used against:
Sir Galveston

99.

Hopling

Humanoid

1

Level PetHopling is used against:
Bredda Tenderhide

100.

Voodoo Figurine

Undead

1

Level PetVoodoo Figurine is used against:
Grixis Tinypop

101.

Cogblade Raptor

Mechanical

1

Level PetCogblade Raptor is used against:
Odrogg

102.

Gahz'rooki

Aquatic

1

Level PetGahz'rooki is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox

103.

Crazy Carrot

Elemental

1

Level PetCrazy Carrot is used against:
Sir Galveston

104.

Twilight Fiendling

Magic

1

Level PetTwilight Fiendling is used against:
Varenne

105.

Minfernal

Magic

1

Level PetMinfernal is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox

106.

Gulp Froglet

Aquatic

1

Level PetGulp Froglet is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox

107.

Cerulean Moth

Flying

1

Level PetCerulean Moth is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox

108.

Spring Rabbit

Critter

1

Level PetSpring Rabbit is used against:
Varenne

109.

Oily Slimeling

Magic

1

Level PetOily Slimeling is used against:
Bredda Tenderhide

110.

Rotten Little Helper

Humanoid

1

Level PetRotten Little Helper is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox

111.

Infected Squirrel

Undead

1

Level PetInfected Squirrel is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox

112.

Frog

Aquatic

1

Level PetFrog is used against:
Bredda Tenderhide

113.

Pandaren Air Spirit

Elemental

1

Level PetPandaren Air Spirit is used against:
Aulier

114.

Draenei Micro Defender

Mechanical

1

Level PetDraenei Micro Defender is used against:
Master Tamer Flummox

115.

Imperial Silkworm

Critter

1

Level PetImperial Silkworm is used against:
Bodhi Sunwayver

116.

Strand Crab

Aquatic

1

Level PetStrand Crab is used against:
Amalia

117.

Any Spider

Beast

0

Level PetAny Spider is used against:

118.

Any Dragonkin

Dragonkin

0

Level PetAny Dragonkin is used against:





Liarliar wrote on 03/17/2017

This site have been such a valuable asset to my pet battling i dont have words :) And the option to import rematch teams is just brilliant. Thanks for making such a resource for pet battlers :)

AaronM wrote on 02/02/2017

Would it be possible for you to create strategies for these trainers that's not associated with the family familiar achievements? Some trainers I have defeated with all pet families so I'd like to go back with the best possible team that is easy to beat each trainer and also to save these teams in rematch for future use. I could pick one of the strategies listed for each trainer (human, beast, or magic, etc.) but having a strategy that would easily counter each trainers pets would be awesome. Also, great work on the site! Keep up the good work!

Aranesh

responded on 02/03/2017

Sure! That is already there :D
There is a separate section for the World Quests where you will find "normal" teams, where possible with the option of a leveling pet: https://wow-petguide.com/index.php?m=LegionWQ

AaronM responded on 02/03/2017

I certainly do know about the Legion World Quests section but what I am talking about are simple strategies for the Family Familiar trainers not all the other trainers in the World Quests section of this site. They are obviously separated into 2 sections and they should be, however, once you beat a family familiar trainer, in this section, with all pet families and you want to go back and defeat him/her again for the quest awards having a specific team that can counter the trainers pets, instead of using a specific family of pets (Human, Magic, Dragonkin, etc) , would be awesome to have. Perhaps I could be overthinking this a bit and maybe there is a family team that would be best suited to beat each one of these trainers, however, having a default team to counter each of these traniners pets would be great to have. Thus, why I am posting this under the Family Familiar section and not the World Quests section. Thank you for your reply. Sorry if I'm not explaining this well. :)

Aranesh

responded on 02/03/2017

Mh... I don't really get it. In the World Quest section, all Family Familiar tamers are present as well. They are the ones with a green paw at their names. If you don't need them for Family Familiar, that section at the World Quests should give you fast strategies with the option of a level pet (where possible), no matter the families.
Am I missing something? Sorry if I'm overlooking something completely :S

Remte responded on 02/04/2017

I guess what the OP means is creating an alternative way of sorting the encounters. Now, they're sorted by pet types, but there would be another "tree" aswell that allows to start from choosing a specific tamer first (so you can ingame stand next to a tamer with his or her page prepared, browse your achievements and then decide which family do you decide to play this day).
I have no particular opinion, just trying to explain that – though I think that isn't something that Xu-Fu 2.0 won't manage ^^

Aranesh

responded on 02/05/2017

I hope so ^^ And I like the sound of Xu-Fu 2.0 :D

Alarys - Stormrage wrote on 12/28/2016

Looks like Flummox was fixed; Just took him (her? it?) out with your suggested Beast team, and got Flummox credit on the Best of Beasts achieve. Now to do that with the rest of my 110s :D

Aryel wrote on 12/28/2016

I just got Family Familiar today with help, in large part, to your guides! Thank you so much for what you're doing!

Aranesh

responded on 12/28/2016

You are very welcome, congratulations!

Kilrsmurf wrote on 12/19/2016

Are the 3 Suramar trainers still in rotation? I haven't seen Varenne or Aulier up since mid-October and I have never seen Flummox up. I am Exalted with Nightfallen and am well past the entire Good Suramaritan chain requirement that I see listed. Trying to complete Family Familiar with 3 trainers never popping is a giant pain. Did I miss a posting somewhere along the line saying these 3 are broken or something? Just curious if anyone else has seen them or if they are MIA for others as well.

Aranesh

responded on 12/20/2016

Hey! I'm wondering the same, it's very, very unlikely this is just down to randomness. On warcraftpets.com there is already a discussion going and perhaps we will get an answer from Blizzard in the new year :)

Xpsyded responded on 12/22/2016

I am feeling like this achievement is flawed. I never see the three trainers you are referencing in your post

Bix responded on 12/23/2016

I've been keeping track of these since I began the achiev (around 25 sept. 2016), on an almost daily basis (maybe missed 3 days since then).
I've had Aulier up 4 times (last time around early December), Varenne up 2 times (last time was around mid-November), and I've *never ever* had Flummox up.

Alarys - Stormrage responded on 12/28/2016

Flummox apepars to be up on NA realms right now, with three additional pet WQs (Durian, Bredda, and Help a Whelp). Here's hoping 4 daily is the new thing!

Remte responded on 02/04/2017

I can confirm it used to be a thing, but sadly as of today we get always 3 world quests per day, no matter the zone. A character without progress in the Suramar City will see only two or less that day if something happens here.

platetits wrote on 12/17/2016

So, if you're using the multiple characters strat to do this in a more timely manner, does this mean that you should focus each character on one of the achievements? From what I can tell, the different family achievements criteria are not accountwide.

Aranesh

responded on 12/18/2016

To my knowledge the progress is shared account wide, so it doesn't matter which character you use for what achievement :-) I highly recommend the addon "Family Familiar Helper" from Gello: https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/family-familiar-helper
It makes this a lot easier to track!

platetits responded on 12/18/2016

The individual achievements are not accountwide.

Jon/Troy responded on 12/20/2016

I receive credit on all my five 110s for every trainer i beat with a specific family.
I have been just checking that there is a grey part of one of the achievements for each trainer that's active when I log on and am only now noticing how rarely we get suramar trainers, having done 6 trainers with all of the 10 families and keep seeing them recur (it took me 3 spawns to kill robert craig with aquatic for instance, I couldn't get the RNG right.) I have never seen a string of trainers and I think I only saw varenne once.
I have done between 1-5 pet battles of the family familiar every day since about day 6 of launch and am currently still not finished.

Bix responded on 12/23/2016

I hereby confirm that individual achievs *are* indeed accountwide. This is easy to see with the color in the Achiev title (in the basic UI) : light blue = account wide (progress included), brownish/red = character-specific. ALL pet achievements except "Pet Charmer" (collect 500 charms) are accoun-wide (blue).

Badjoojoo - SOE wrote on 12/09/2016

I have a suggestion! :) Would it be possible to create an icon that goes on every trainer who is part of Family Familiar and another icon for trainers who do or do not level pets? You could create an icon for each, and if it doesn't apply, make a red circle with a diagonal line through it so we know immediately that the trainer is or is not a FF trainer and a pet leveler or not. :) BTW: I am a graphic designer, so if you have ideas but don't have the skills, let me know and I'll be happy to help. I love this site with a passion and it would be a pleasure to help you out.

Aranesh

responded on 12/29/2016

Hey there! Sorry I didn't answer any sooner. The Family Familiar Icon is in now! For leveling pets, I have a slightly different idea - I want to add this to the battle table because many fights have both a "fast" or a "leveling" or maybe a "super safe" strategy, and it would get a bit crowded with icons I guess^^

For any other kind of graphic design I really have to look... I'm decent with photoshop but far from being a professional. Is there any part of the page that you would rework and design entirely different? I'm very happy for suggestions or criticism :-)

Zaymaa wrote on 11/17/2016

Aspects, can't thank you enough for sharing this. Wow.

JoeAlder wrote on 11/05/2016

Hi! Yesterday I noticed that the world quest "Beasts of Burden", which requires defeating Andurs & Rydyr in Stormheim, has another loophole: as long as you don't defeat both, you can repeat one of the battles as much as you want. Bring a pet with Decoy, an Iron Starlette, lots of bandages and start leveling those pets up!

Sneaks wrote on 10/31/2016

With the new addition of the Falcosaurs, and their quests to 'complete 3 pet battle world quests with your {falcosaur} Hatchling present', would you be willing to do an updated version of the 'Flock Together' achievement to include them (or at least leave a note where they can be substituted)?

So far, Chromadon, the Thistleleaf Bully, and Vinu were all doable with both the Snowfeather and the Bloodgazer present (though the credit could only be given to one at a time), but I'm sure there are others that might be more difficult to work around.

Aranesh

responded on 10/31/2016

Hey Sneaks!
I just wrote a blog entry about this. It seems currently you don't even need to have the Falcosaur in your team, which makes it much easier to do. Try it out and let me know if it gives you any trouble!

Sneaks responded on 11/01/2016

Oh fantastic, thank you! I thought it was gonna be such a pain, so it's a relief that I won't have to work around all that mess. Though with the timing, I've got two hatchlings doing the same part of the chain at the same time, and this is gonna have them all staggered now.

I just want to say, though, I really appreciate all the work you've put into this site. It's become my go-to when I need to look up something for the pet battles!

Cherish responded on 11/02/2016

Hiya Xufu,

According to BlizzardCS on Wowhead:

http://www.wowhead.com/quest=44978/direbeak-team-up.

"Just wanted to clarify something for this quest: for a pet battle to count for this, the specific pet must be summoned as a non-combat pet before starting it. Also, the pet must be present during battle itself, and it must survive it. Otherwise you won't get credit for the quest."

Much appreciation to your site.

Elivra responded on 11/04/2016

I just finished the World quests with these pets. You dont need to have them in your Team. When you start the fight open your pet journal and summon the pet you need for the quest this will give credit.

Aranesh

wrote on 10/26/2016

It appears the loophole with twinks not unlocking world quests has indeed bin fixed with 7.1. Now this has to be completed the "normal" way, probably as it was intended in the first place.

Macgam responded on 10/26/2016

Sadly... confirmed for me as well.
The good news is you can do battles on multiple 110 toons.

MightyTG wrote on 10/26/2016

The loophole didnt end this morning when the patch dropped because i hit one of the tamers 1 time on main and 9 on my alt, but then just now, about midnight (eastern time) i wnet to do sir galveston and it wouldnt let me do it more than once. I got angry and went to turn the quest in, but then i remembered that it never let me do the tamers in dalaran more than once, only the ones out in the broken isles :X so dont turn it in until you are sure its patched!!!!!

Sunny wrote on 10/25/2016

Oh dear, did the loophole close for 7.1? I'm here (sans world quests unlocked) with Sir Galveston & he doesn't want to duel me. :(
Edit: Something odd about the Dalaran trainers, the others still work; http://www.warcraftpets.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16330#p130079

Aspects wrote on 10/24/2016

Hi, I just finished the achievement today with 4 level 110 characters, (without using the exploit). I recorded most of the fights in a spreadsheet if you're interested:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tCcSOBOKJBRnL-QWJkp9qjaD8rnXlxLEY1YDOdNZui0

I will be updating it constantly till I complete it. Please let me know what you think.

Aranesh

responded on 10/26/2016

That is really amazing! Thank you very much, I'll check through it when I do the next pass through the trainers :-)

Analilaura wrote on 10/23/2016

This is an awesome guide! Love it!

Jeack wrote on 10/23/2016

Xu fu - thanks for the excellent guide! Got my achievement today! Your guide was essential - even if I didn't use the fights exactly, I used them as a starting point. Couldn't have done the achievement without it.

Gráinne responded on 10/23/2016

Yes, much rejoicing in EU today when Durian showed up after a long absence and gave lots of people a chance to finish!

I got it too! W00t!

Most of the battles were very easy, but for Bredda in particular, XuFu's work was a life saver. :) Thank you!

Anonymous wrote on 10/22/2016

Do they spawn in a daily rotation? So far Nightwater Merayl -> Trapper Jarrun -> Tiffany Nelson on my queue list.

Jeack responded on 10/22/2016

No they do not. Totally random.

I've been 11/12 and waiting for Durian to spawn for 3 weeks :-(

Anonymous responded on 10/23/2016

Well he is live today!

Jeack responded on 10/23/2016

Yes he is - just got my achieve! Woot!

Anonymous wrote on 10/22/2016

Can you change the order of the pet icons (top left) to Humanoid -> Dragon -> Flying -> Undead -> Critter -> Magic -> Elemental -> Beast -> Aquatic -> Mechanical. This order is traditional and many addons use this order as well. Let us know thanks!

Aranesh

responded on 10/22/2016

Good point! I was sorting them according to my visual taste but you're right, there is kind of a convention and I changed it accordingly :-)

Anonymous responded on 10/23/2016

Your awesome! Thanks!

Anonymous wrote on 10/20/2016

The Loophole for the extra eager will be patched on October 25th (Patch 7.1) for all accounts that have at least one level 110 character that has world quests unlocked. This is because all alt characters will automatically have world quests unlocked without the friendly reputation requirement.

Aranesh

responded on 10/20/2016

Not necessarily. The patchnotes say every char on level 110 will have the quest and can directly hand it in with Khadgar - no matter the reputation steps. But it sounds like you won't be forced to hand it in. If you don't ..... ^^

Anonymous responded on 10/20/2016

Okay cool! Thanks for the info. I guess we will find out for sure come October 25th

Detholis responded on 10/25/2016

Just a FYI, I believe they have fixed some of the loophole. I saw Sir Galveston was a WQ today on my main and switched to my alt that's 110 and doesn't have WQ content open and I was unable to battle him. However, I was able to battle Robert Craig in Stormheim.

Daedrynn responded on 10/25/2016

I, too, was not able to battle Sir Galveston even though I have not turned in the quest to Khadgar to open the world quests. So bummed because Sir G was the very last one I needed. :(

fr0z3night wrote on 10/20/2016

Add-ons to help you with the achievement, that helps you keep track of the completed battles

Family Familiar Helper (https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/family-familiar-helper)
World Quest Tips & Timers (https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/worldquest-tips-timers)


Jeack wrote on 10/13/2016

Can anyone confirm or deny that this is account wide? I can see credit for the trainers I've done on my alts, but I'm not sure if that's just a bug.

The loophole is taking longer than expected, it would be nice to finish on alts and get WQ on my main XD

MightyTG responded on 10/13/2016

I can confirm that if you do it on an alt 110 that is not yet friendly, It counts for account-wide each achievement leading up to the Family Familiar achievement. Every day I get on my main 110, check what battles are available, and if there is any that count towards the Family Familiar that i have not yet done, I do it with one family of pets on my main, then switch to my alt, fly there, and complete it 9 more times with each pet family. If my cards are dealt right, I should have my achievement within the next couple weeks!

Best of luck!

Jeack responded on 10/14/2016

Awesome, thanks for confirming.

And some additional info: you cannot battle tamers if you are not 110. So your alt must be 110 and not have WQ unlocked, but it does appear the credit for each sub-achievement can be done on different toons.

Lueofvelen responded on 10/17/2016

I have been using this technique, and I am only 1 trainer away on 8 of the achievements, and have 2 of them complete. I just flew out to do Varenne, one of the last few I needed to complete the last 8 on my 110 DK who doesn't have WQ unlocked, and was unable to battle the tamer. This is the same toon I used to do all the other battles per tamer in one day. Looks like this has been fixed :(

Aranesh

responded on 10/17/2016

Not entirely, but the Suramar trainer Varenne and Aulier are special as they seem to be tied to the quest chain. Either you need the quest chain, or you can only do them with characters that have world quests enabled. The others are unaffected :-)

Daedrynn wrote on 10/09/2016

Sadly, Patch 7.1 will no longer require you to be friendly with all the factions to unlock world quests on an alt. The world quests will unlock as soon as your alt hits 110. That means the Loophole will be closed. Better use your alts to get as many as you can done before the patch!

Aranesh

responded on 10/09/2016

Hey Daedrynn!
According to the patch notes you will still get the quest with your alts to unlock world quests. So as long as you keep that in your log and don't complete it, I assume you can still use the loophole :-)

MightyTG responded on 10/13/2016

Good catch! Im in the process of trying to use the loophole pre patch, but not sure if I have enough time to hit each trainer!

Daedrynn responded on 10/25/2016

I'm happy to hear this, Xu! I only have two more trainers to beat (x12) for the achievement. So I guess we'll know for sure in the morning. Fingers crossed!

Tonnes wrote on 09/21/2016

It's currently not possible to cheese Aulier with a level 100 that hasn't unlocked world quests, I think hes locked behind suramar progression or something? After running my sorry butt out to him on my 110 druid to have him not have any option to battle was kinda irritating :P

Jeack responded on 09/25/2016

I believe Aulier and Varenne are both locked behind rep or something. Supposedly not visible to people using the loophole.

I was told Aulier was up one day in addition to the normal 3 dailies, but I didn't have time to check if I could see them (I have not unlocked WQ).

To those keeping count, this means between Flummox being extremely difficult/impossible for this achievement, and Aulier and Varenne being locked - if you plan to use the loophole you can only use the remaining 12 tamers.

Jeack responded on 09/28/2016

Varenne was up today so I wanted to confirm 100% this is true....and sadly it is.

I can see the NPC, but he says something like "what are you doing here" and doesn't give the option to battle!

Mia wrote on 09/20/2016

Any chance there is any viable substitute pet for Lil' Deathwing ?
I've no way of getting it.

Also is there any viable substitute for: Rotten Little Helper, Zoom and Gulp Froglet?

All in All it's the only 4 pets I don't have, where 1 is impossible to get.

Jeack responded on 09/23/2016

Generally yes. I replaced Zoom with S/S Rabbit.

For the others, I don't know which fights those guys are being used on, but I took the approach that any pet on Xu-fu's list being used in 3 or less fights isn't worth finding and leveling.

I have done 8 trainers on all breeds with no issues so far. The only really specialized pet I've needed was Firewing. I have like 85 level 25s to pick from, but the point is there are many combinations that work. These fights are pretty easy for the most part.

Daedrynn responded on 10/02/2016

I am also looking for a viable substitute for Deathwing. I'm kicking myself for not buying the CE of Crapaclysm now. I won't make that mistake again.

Mausoleum wrote on 09/08/2016

Done all the undead part with just 3 pets: Bone Serpent (HH - 1-2-1) / Bone Serpent (HS - 1-2-1) / Graves (1-2-2)

Jeack wrote on 09/06/2016

I'll update this post once I have more data, or someone can contradict me, but so far it seems:

One of the dal trainers always seems to be up (1 of 4). So for the loophole this is nice and easy for doing your first 4 tamers (takes 4 days).

But this means the other dailies (33 in total) must share the other two world quests each day. And only 11 of the 33 quests are relevant to this achievement.

...So you have ~2/3 chance of seeing one of the relevant tamers on a given day (aside from the dalaran trainers). 11 *(3/2) = 16.5 days with average luck to finish this achieve using the loophole.

...and something like 200 days if doing it normally (and get average luck).

Jeack responded on 09/08/2016

I misread the achievement - you only need to beat 12 tamers with each breed (not all 15 listed in achieve). Thank god because flummox might be impossible with most breeds.

so 12 days to do with loophole. 120 normally, as xu-fu originally stated.

Jeack responded on 09/08/2016

I misread the achievement - you only need to beat 12 tamers with each breed (not all 15 listed in achieve). Thank god because flummox might be impossible with most breeds.

so 12 days to do with loophole. 120 normally, as xu-fu originally stated.

Jeack responded on 09/11/2016

Just to follow up on this...after 6 days of dal trainers being up, one was not up today. It seems like dal trainers are in the pool with everyone else.

Aranesh

responded on 09/11/2016

It does seem completely random, but with 6 Dalaran fights in the pool the likelihood for them is of course quite high. The only ones that are different and possibly tied to a questline or reputation are Varenne and Aulier in Suramar. They also did never appear on Beta.

Herr Trigger wrote on 09/03/2016

I just hit 110 without having friendly and all that, got the quest from Khadgar to get Friendly with all factions, and to unlock world quests - was looking forward to taking them all down for Family Familiar without needing to wait for the quests to be up, the "loophole" you describe above, but it doesn't seem to be working, for example, Jarrun is nowhere to be found. Is this still the case?

Aranesh

responded on 09/03/2016

Hey there!
I have not tested it on live myself, but saw a few comments from people that it is indeed still working.
However you only see those world quests that are actually available on a given day. So you can either ask other people to check for you, or level another toon to 110 and unlock the quests to check where to go.

Herr Trigger responded on 09/03/2016

Ah, I see, so Jarrun must simply not be up for today. I figured that that may have been the case, but it's good for confirmation, thank you.

Still way better than waiting months for all of them to be up like 10 times each.

Dumb Rabbit wrote on 08/16/2016

Hey Xufu, love your guides, just curious if there is a stable substitute pet for the Searing Scorchling, i have been trying to aquire this pet for awhile now but with no luck, and my server prices are rediculously high.

Aranesh

responded on 08/16/2016

Hey there! I'm trying around with a Fel Flame currently. It is very similar, but has different stats. I will test the fights with it and exchange where possible. For now I think you can safely assume a Fel Flame works as well :-)

Orpho responded on 08/17/2016

I had the same question! Grinding out dailies in Molten Front will take about a month, so I'm hoping Fel Flame works out!

Dumb Rabbit responded on 08/17/2016

Sweet yeah that is a much easier to aquire pet, if it works that would be amazing, thanks Xufu for the quick response, appriciated.

Remte wrote on 07/17/2016

A technical note: currently selecting a tamer from the general page (=here) leads you to Humanoid section of that tamer. Nothing strange with that, but may seem confusing for someone looking for a specific quest rather than a family (what doesn't mean you can contain that option).
Besides, for all Legion pages ATM could you make ready/not ready tabs distinguishable, by different colour shades or something? I have a difficulty with finding all already available strategies. :3

Aranesh

responded on 07/18/2016

Hey!
The Humanoid selection is because it's the first in the family list. But I see your point. Do you think it would be better if instead there would be a larger list of the Families in the middle to select, before jumping to a strategy?

Regarding the second point, I'd prefer using my time to implement new strategies. There are about 40 strategies available right now. I have another ~40 tested and ready, that I need to fill in.
I do have more plans for the display, showing particularly hard combinations, but my main goal right now is to fill those blanks.

Remte responded on 07/19/2016

(My phone's battery was too low to edit the comment yet another time ^^)

Well, that multiple battling possible also means that browsing by trainers is mandatory. So there is no second option!

Remte responded on 07/19/2016

That's okay. For filling the space, you may include a screenshot that you're going to put on the mouseover aswell. ^^
That or using the left bar for families only, giving you bigger resolution buttons ^^

I respect your plan, just thought it'd take a month or so to fill the gaps, forgeting about the unexpected non-quest catch-up. ^^

Good luck!

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